Rolling Stone caught up with the T.I. aka Tip to talk about working with Dr. Dre and swimming against rap’s new melodic current:

– You did a session with Dr. Dre for The Dime Trap . . .
– Yep. A few of them.

– Well, what was that experience like for you?
Dre’s the homie, to be honest with you. I’ve never seen somebody so meticulous about music before. The only thing that I can say was a similar experience was when me and Eminem did those songs together. The way Em is about a verse, that’s how Dre is about production. It’s a very tedious, meticulous, nerve-wracking process. But the outcome is immeasurable. You just can’t describe the difference in the magnitude of production that goes from what we’re used to doing and what he’s used to doing.

T.I. and Eminem have two songs together. “Touchdown” and “All She Wrote”

Read the full interview on Rolling Stone.